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Of like a prayer is. God damn it, I missed it. God, I was so close. I was like, I have got to get Gavin doing this on the podcast, and I totally fucking missed the window.
SPEAKER_02:
Fuck.
David:
And this is Gatriarchs. Listener, thank you so much for standing by with us and for emailing us. I finally went through, I was telling David before we started recording, I went through our email books.
Gavin:
I can’t believe you’re confessing this on the air live.
David:
I know. I know. I went through our DMs and I went through our emails and we had just a just a stupid amount of just like, we just didn’t respond to you emails. And I feel I feel really bad. I feel really bad. And it’s just for guests and listeners, and it was just like a whole bunch of things. So anyway, one of the I wanted to bring up one of them because um it’s a really good idea and we want to talk about it. So our listener, our one listener, Silverio, which is that really your name. I don’t know, but it said Silverio in the email address, um, emailed us and said, Hey guys, I love your podcast. Thank you all for what you do to celebrate and uplift families like ours. That’s clearly for Gavin. Um, I was wondering if you’ve ever considered organizing or facilitating meetup events for your listeners. I think it would be amazing to have an opportunity to connect in person with other families who share similar experiences, whether it’s a family picnic, a casual hangout, or a more formal event. I’d love to attend something like that and meet more dads and kids in our community. Anyway, just a thought, looking forward to your next episode.
Gavin:
Okay, I’ve already made multiple sounds about this. The oh my God.
SPEAKER_00:
And oh, it is sweet.
Gavin:
It’s a wonderful idea. Listener, do you think we should try this? Then again, our listeners are all over the place, right? I mean, listener, listener travels from place to place and hears it.
David:
Yes, there would be one person at this event, as we know. Um, but yeah, but I think that was my first thought when Savario emailed us was like, it’s a great idea, but like we literally we talked about, listen, I’m marrying Liam from um Scotland. I’m gonna marry Sam from Canada. Like, we’ve got listener everywhere, and so I’m not sure how this would work. I love the idea. We can’t even get our Facebook page together, let alone. I mean, we can’t even respond to emails or to DMs.
Gavin:
And it’s frankly not because there’s so many of them. We’re no, we’re just bad at this.
David:
We’re bad at this. But so Gabe and I are gonna pray on it because I I think this is a great idea. And I think what we would have to do is maybe start do a trial one in probably Manhattan, maybe like Central Park, because that’s closest for Gavin and I. And so maybe we’d have to start one with our New York City centered um dads or any dads who want to travel. But I I love the idea, but Gavin and I are also very lazy.
Gavin:
But let us know, listener, what you think. Let us know. I mean Would you come to something like this? Drop us a line, and would you come to something like this? Yes. And uh, I mean, I would be curious to know. I mean, we’ve been to events like this before, right? I mean, you did men having babies. I was part of a gay dads group in um New York, and it was I there is a it is important, it’s exhausting to be uh obligatory in your socializing and to be alive, particularly now. But you do it and then you go home and you’re like, you know, I’m glad I did that. I met some people, we complained about our kids. It was good. We had drinks, there would be drinks involved. Sure, of course, especially if you’re hosting it.
David:
But but this is I feel the same way, like being or just in in the company of other gay dads. Yeah, it there’s just some like there’s an energy recharge there. There’s a um a gay dad group uh by me, and we do bi-monthly events, and every other month is like one month is like with kids and the other month is like without kids. So they’ll do like our thing with dads, and then the other one’s like they’ll have to do that.
SPEAKER_01:
How many of you get together?
David:
There’s like 60 people that come to these things. It’s actually pretty wonderful. So do they all know about gay triarks? Listen, I’m sure they do. We’re very, very famous, but um but but it it is there’s an energizing thing that to like watch your kids be normalized in a setting. So we listener Silverio and all the other listener, let’s let’s think about this. Maybe we’ll try one and see how it goes. But I I love this idea. Um, and yeah, we’ll we’ll we’ll see if we can make it happen.
Gavin:
Love it. Thanks for bringing it to us, Silverio. We appreciate that. And also we want to know what your drag name is because that’s a good one right there. That’s a good one. Um, so David, yeah, singing is allowed in the house again. Oh god, this is Reverend Shaw Moore. I won. I won this battle. And no, I don’t think parenting is about winning battles, and I do think parenting is about choosing battles. But listen, when you’re cut when your kid is on the cusp of making very long-term decisions that are not good, you step in as a parent, right? So we came to just full-on bribery and we compromised. She’s not getting a puppy to join to be in band, she’s not going on tour following BeyoncĂ© around for five tours, um, for five concerts just to be in the choir. No, because we are trash who live on a dirt road, in Connecticut, we now have chickens. And that was the compromise for my daughter to join the band. We are homesteaders. Just call me trad wife. Just David Tradwife.
David:
So trad wife material now. You’re making your own butter. Yes. Oh my god, I love it.
Gavin:
Yeah, I know this is an audio format, but I am actually wearing a um Holly Hobby dress right now and just turning butter on the side. Can’t worry. So I can say that I won this battle. And listen, I’m just asking her to do it for two years. And I don’t even care if it’s band or choir. I just feel like music is integral to a kid’s upbringing. And that is especially if you’re the quarterback of the football team, right? But also in your life, you and your husband come from a professional musical background. Yes, exactly. And also chickens. I well, listen, I mean, we live on a dirt road and we had chickens, I admit. Like it’s kind of I can’t believe that this was the compromise because we’ve had chickens before, and we let them free range around our house. And guess what? We had chickens for a few months, and then we didn’t have chickens. And then the wolves got them or whatever. Those Connecticut wolves. Foxes. Oh, yeah. No foxes. There was a bobcat that came across our yard one time.
David:
Oh, wait, didn’t we have a guest, the those two gay dads from like Canada who who had chickens or whatever? They had like an Airbnb and chicken channel. That’s exactly right.
Gavin:
We talked about the chickens a little bit, yes. So chicken chat CT. That is the um Wow. That that is a that is a thing here in Connecticut is chicken chat CT.com. I am not part of it because I’m not I’m not that chicken-y. But we um yeah, so now we have these little tiny chicks, and I gotta say they’re real cute. Maybe they’ll make up an appearance on Gatriarchs. Oh uh because they’re really, really cute. And but they’re they’re in, so you have to, when you have chicks, you have to give them warmth, you know, they have to have a uh heating lamp, and uh, we didn’t hatch them out of eggs or anything. They were little little tiny, cute little chicks, right? But um, you have to have some kind of what’s called a brooder for them to grow up in, right? Or at least grow in. And so I pulled the pack and play out of the attic, and we have chickens in a pack and play, but it like it works perfectly, right? And so they’re just soiling this pack and play. But guess what? That’s what we did in 2022, and I thought we’re gonna have chickens again, so I’m gonna keep this pack and play up here, and maybe I’ll have grandkids in that pack and play too. And my children will be like, Are you kidding? My my children are not getting into that thing from the last early century. So, anyway, we have chickens, and my my daughter will be in the band next year. And I’m glad you won. I’m very proud. Okay, I it is all about me after all. It is all about me.
David:
Yes. So I have been traveling a lot. I keep saying I feel like every episode I’ve been saying, like I’m traveling, but we traveled for spring break uh last week.
Gavin:
Yeah, you are all I we it’s been impossible for us to even get together and record because you’re so jet-setty right now.
David:
I was literally in Florida last week. I’m gonna be in LA next week, uh Wisconsin the week after that, two weeks after that, I’m going to LA again. I know kind of. But anyway, I was traveling to uh to Florida for spring break with my family. Uh-huh. Four of us.
Gavin:
Now I just you and all of those college co-eds who are going down to get shit faced.
David:
Yes, totally. And I, you know, I’ve flown with my kids since they were three days old. So they have been flying, you know, when they were three days old, as any parent knows, it’s the best time to fly with kids because they don’t do anything but eating and sleep. So um, and then also the worst time is about one and a half. That is the absolute worst time to have a child because they are wiggly, they don’t sit down, they don’t lay down, but they also cannot understand rules or anything. Yeah. Um, and you can’t put an iPad in front of them. So I was traveling with my kids for spring break, and a couple of uh notable things, which is really interesting. And one is when we were flying there, we I was in the middle seat, my son was on the window seat, and then there was this old lady on the aisle. So that was the three of us. And the old lady, first of all, had a wicked sweatshirt on, which I’m obsessed with. Um wait, and you do mean as in wicked the movie slash Broadway show, or do you mean she was from Boston? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Maybe she’s from Boston, but no, it was the movie. Um, and so we were talking and you know, all the things that come up. But what was hilarious is watching the youngest of people and arguably the oldest of people and how they fly in a plane. Because my son on the right is wearing a Bluetooth connected headphones. He’s swiping through movies, he’s watching the first eight minutes of every movie and then immediately changing to the next one. Yeah. And I turn to the left. This is a two and a half-ish hour flight. I turn to the left, and this woman is raw dogging this flight. She is sitting quietly, no earbuds, no TV, just staring ahead. For two and a half hours of this bitch raw dog this flight. I could not believe. But this is a different generation. She just sat there and thought about things.
Gavin:
I thought raw dogging, though, was more millennials kind of thing. I mean, and you’re not going to be able to do that.
David:
I think that’s like the ironic thing where like I’m gonna raw dog a flight to Europe and I’m just gonna sit there and stare. But this this is how she travels, clearly.
Gavin:
You you make so many assumptions about some woman who’s wearing a wicked t-shirt, slash sweatshirt, right? Like, this is a person who’s into musicals. This is a person who is into wicked, this is a person who like wants entertainment, wants to be uplifted, wants to be entertaining, is probably super social, would love to know the person that she’s sitting next to and his experience with, say, wicked or whatever. And yet she just raw dogged, which that term.
David:
But it was like I it was this wild moment where I was like looking back and forth, and I was like, these are two totally different travel experiences. And she never acknowledged you or your kid? No, no, we talked a little bit, and of course, as we’re talking, naturally, what did she ask me? When did you get him? Did you have him when he was and then she’s you know, dot, dot, dot. And I was like, you know, you can’t get mad at that because people don’t know how to talk about things. And I don’t want to be like, no, we did gestational surrogacy, blah, blah, blah, blah. But um, we were talking about birth and flying and everything. Um, but I did wanted to tell you about a travel hack my husband and I do all the time. And it’s like a mini travel hack because it works 35% of the time. Okay. So that is a that is a good amount of time. So when there’s four people flying, there’s a we are a family of four, usually the aisles are three and three, right? Um and so it’s a weird thing. Do you do three and one? Right. Do you do two in front, two and behind? So what we’ve learned is that the best way to do it, well, at least with the kids our age, is do two and two front to back, because then you can pass each other shit. And then you put the annoying kid in the back. So when they kick the seat, it’s the seat of the person, right? Yes. But the travel hack is what we do is we book the window and the aisle seat of those two rows because it makes the only available seat a middle seat. And generally that’s the last one people want. So a lot of the time, like 35% of the time, you’ve got three seats. Nobody’s there. And if somebody does come, always you’re doing them the favor. Correct. Then we’re the hero, and we say, Hey, you have the the aisle, but we’re traveling with my my son. Would you mind moving to the window aisle, however we want to do it? So um, that is our hack. It works sometimes, and it it it when you have the whole row, oh man, that is that is life-changing.
Gavin:
So that’s life changing for sure. Yeah, that’s a fantastic dad hack of the week. I’m so glad you wrote that on the um outline and got right to it. I know, and you and you have and you have a different dad hack of the week.
David:
So we’re gonna have lots of hacks for this episode, I see. We’ll save it for the next time. Um, also, speaking of spring break, we did um our school spring break or spring photos or whatever. And on the form for my daughter. Oh, you know, where they just do it in your daycare. Yes. But what’s hilarious is on the form, they they ask, like, does she have any hobbies, favorite characters, or whatever? Because they want to be able to talk to her and whatever. But then they say, Is there anything that she laughs at or whatever? And I realize that the only thing I can confidently say is if you mention any form of the word poop or butt crack, this child will laugh and give you a great smile. So I have to write on the form for the professional photographer, please say poopy poop butt pants, and she’ll laugh like crazy. And Gavin, we got great photos back. We got great photos back.
Gavin:
So I mean, if you were taking photos of me right now, they would be pretty good ones too. Because I also laugh at poopy poop face butt crack as well. That’s hilarious. Yeah. That’s wow. I wish boy, you would have loved to be in that moment right there, right? Watching the photographer read it and then start laughing themselves. And um Although this can’t be the first time somebody has said that, right?
David:
Because this is a thing at this age, right?
Gavin:
But yes, but don’t you think there are few people gutsy enough like you and me who write that honestly? All the other gay jerks, yeah. Every single time I write my teachers, uh my kids’ teachers about issues, which is increasingly so, like, hey, just checking in. They’re so kinetic. I’m wondering how I can help with my kid who’s getting an F minus on something. And you know, diplomatically doing it, and I don’t blame the teachers. I’m like, listen, I’m sure that you’re doing the right thing, but also what can I do on my end to help it? But I will, first of all, like make some quippy thing about my kid and uh kind of like throw them under the bus. But I have no problem, like it’s a way of being able to make people laugh, you know, and and then reduce barriers. And I mean, I’m sure that you will do the same thing if you care about your kids later on and their academic careers. But anyway, I have no problem like I have no problem writing poopy poop butt heart pants. There was one time Mike, um, so my partner was away in London for a few months when my kids were like five, three, four, two. And um, we took them over for a few weeks. It was really great. It was so fun to first of all have a free place to stay in London and have the kids there for a few weeks. I took them out of school. It was really fun. But one of the things that we had to do to keep up with our time was um, particularly my daughter, was just learning how to do kindergarten writing. And so it was very simple sentences. I went on a plane, I went and did this, blah, blah, blah. And one of the ways that I got them to go through the British Museum, which is uh huge, obviously, was I wasn’t gonna try to take them to every single room and read every single panel like my mom tortured me when I was a kid. I said, no, no, no, here’s our strategy. And maybe this is a dad hack. Here’s it my strategy. We’re gonna go see mummies and we’re gonna go see naked people. Oh, yeah, I’m in. And so we conveniently made our way to the mummies, but also walked by all of these, you know, uh grandiose artistic things that were, of course, stolen by the British Empire from the entire rest of the world and brought into the British Museum. So we saw the mummies, they were very horrified by that, but also particularly romanced by the mummified cat that was there. They still remember a cat wrapped in toilet paper. And then I took them to all of the Greek antiquities of naked statues, right? And they thought that was hilarious. And I took all of these giggling pictures of them. By the way, on the way to that, we went to the Rosetta Stone and I said, Look, the Rosetta Stone. And they were like, uh-huh. And so I took a picture of them both rolling their eyes, which was actually framable. And then the next room, I believe, was um Greek antiquities all stolen. And um, so I took pictures of them with boobs and butts and penises and all of the thing. And so then when I encouraged my daughter to write about it, she’s like, What am I gonna write about? And I said, You can write that you saw marble breasts, and she was like, I gasp. And I said, Do it. You’re writing. The point is that you’re writing. Your kindergarten teacher will love it. So I got her to write it down and I took a picture of it and sent it to the kindergarten teacher, and she did love it.
David:
Gavin, that is actually a great hack. Like the idea of taking your kids to a museum and be like, Do you want to see some mummies and some boobs? I’m like, I I’m I’m fully in. Because also, to be fair, the idea of going to museum with you sounds like a nightmare because you did force me to watch it, read every panel. You would give me the history of fucking British colonialism on everything. I would be killing myself. But you doing it that way, I’m there. I’m totally with you. I love that.
Gavin:
Just go see the blood and guts and boobs and dicks. Yeah. That’s that’s how you and that’s uh when I I don’t actually drag my kids to museums very frequently, but when I do, I think to myself, these are our three destinations. Generally has to do with naked people, because basically, you know, museums are about naked people and death and destruction. And um, so you just you know, and then you see everything along the way and you kind of skip past it and point something out, and they roll their eyes.
David:
And anyway, yeah, there’s my I just think we are yeah, I mean that I just can’t believe how helpful we’re being on this episode. This is a lot of like dad hacks, and it’s like really super helpful stuff. Um, I’m in a really positive place with my five-year-old now, and I think uh he’s five and a half, by the way. He will let you know that every fucking time. But that’s such a five and a half year old thing to do. I’m in a I think a very narrow but perfect window of time with him because A, he’s so easy, he’s so fun. It it’s like he’s still silly and free, but also super capable. I know it’ll change, I know. But I feel like I’m in a good window because right now he loves little errands and things to do. And so he will fetch me anything. So if like we’re coming downstairs, we all get downstairs, and I forgot to bring his shorts downstairs. Uh-huh. I’ll go, hey, why don’t you go upstairs and get your shorts? And he’s like, Okay. And he loves these little things. So now I just sit on my fat ass and I tell him to go do shit. Hey, can you go get me a soda from the fridge? He’s like, Yeah, okay. He loves this shit. And I know this is gonna be like six weeks. It’s gonna be six weeks of time, but oh my god, is it a wonderful time to be a dad?
Gavin:
Oh another wonderful thing about being a dad right now for me is it is fascinating watching in particular my son, who’s a sixth grader, who seems to be navigating little romances. I was texted a picture. I have a friend who’s got a fifth grader who went and did the like um, I don’t know, orientation around the middle school or something like introduction to orientation. And she took a picture of my son’s locker, which uh my understanding is they never use their lockers. That’s another discussion, and it was covered in hearts. Like, like his locker was the one that was absolutely covered in hearts. And I was like, he’s never of course he doesn’t really tell me anything, but I had no idea, nor did my daughter actually tell me that he has hearts all over his locker. But um, it corresponds with I know that there’s a little something something going on with a little friend via text. And he will not talk about it with me. But guess who he will talk about it with? My partner Todd. Yeah, he does and I I’m doing my best to not feel like that.
David:
Because you won’t do, you won’t, you’re not chill, Gavin. That’s why. You’re not chill.
Gavin:
Already my daughter basically said the same thing. I don’t need to come onto this podcast and have you tell me the same things that my teenage daughter says. It’s like, but dad, you’re just weird about it.
David:
She then moved me$50 to say that. So no, but like, no, I would be the same way, Gavin. I the like I would be so excited. Like, tell me everything. And my son would be like, shut the fuck up. Because you’re making it weird. You’re making it weird, and I would make it weird, and you’re making it weird.
SPEAKER_00:
But that’s well, but that’s a fun thing to be weird.
Gavin:
I’m trying to be as open and welcoming as I and not be weird. Just be just be chill, Dad. Just be chill. So it I have, I mean, we’ve talked about it a little bit. Um, but I don’t know, there’s an awful lot of texting that goes on. And in particular, there’s an awful lot of um unsending of texts that I’m like I don’t find it’s not sketchy, but I do feel like it’s a level they are leveling up their flirtation by saying something and then immediately unsending it.
David:
It also might be like text culture of Gen Alpha that we don’t understand, really, right? Is like unsending.
Gavin:
What are they what are these kids doing with their unsending? I don’t know. Yeah. And I mean, it is funny because on Snapchat they it just disappears, but so they’re like rendering texting Snapchatting. So oh yeah, it’s it’s a thing. Just you wait, David. Just you wait. So, David, it’s time for America’s finest news source to come through on the gay news of the week. Um, tell me there was something good. There’s nothing, absolutely no good news whatsoever. But how about we move on to the dilf of the week, huh? Love it. My favorite part. I’ve been doing a deep dive on Mr. Tom Daly. You remember who that is, right?
David:
Of course. That’s I mean, I feel like this was the hot, hot guy. This is like the hot twink like 10 years ago.
Gavin:
So 10 years ago, but he’s still a hot twink. And he just he just brings nothing but joy and abs and knitting into the world. And I mean, I will never not think there’s no amount of starvation or sit-ups that would ab ever bring me to have a diver’s body, that’s for sure. But he’s just nothing but joy, and we all need more Tom Daly in our lives. And by the way, is this a shameless uh request for Tom Daly to come on Gatriarchs? Absolutely. You’re already one of us, Tom, so come on to the show. But also, his if you want like a good dose of serotonin in your life, uh just go watch some Tom Daly on and he’s got two accounts. There’s one about his knitting, which I can’t remember what it is right now, but um, yeah, Tom Daly, he is the dose of the week.
David:
You know what is not a good dose of serotonin?
SPEAKER_02:
What?
David:
Our top three list. Gay three arcs, top three list, three, two, one. All right, this week is my list, and this is the top three songs that are a mood. I I liked this one. Right, this is a good one. And I this is first of all, I know kids don’t use mood, they use vibes, or not even vibes, I don’t know what they use, but you know what the fuck I mean. The top three songs that like you are transported to another world. Maybe they’re not the best songs, maybe the world is fucking weird, but you are just in a fucking world. Yeah, so here are my top three, and I this was really hard.
Gavin:
I have like a hundred, but I have to- Yeah, this one it was hard to narrow this down. I mean, I definitely had to just go with my gut of the first three things that came to mind, and I’ve tweaked them a little bit. Yeah, but there’s I mean, any good song is a mood, frankly.
David:
Yeah, but this is this is very specific. Okay, so two of them you will know, and one of them nobody has ever heard. And so that is my number three. It’s a song called Swimming in Champagne by a country artist named Eric Heatherly, who listen, I think he still does shows now, but like he was like a blip in the country music scene in the early 2000s and then kind of went away. But he wrote this song called Swimming in Champagne, which all I can describe to you is when you listen to it, maybe I’ll make it our play out music today. When you listen to it, it feels like you’re in LA in the most romantic way possible. I don’t know how to describe it, other than it is a fucking mood, and it’s called Swimming and Champagne by Eric Adam. Okay. Um, number two, I could not decide which song by this band, but this band has all of their songs or moods. But I chose Ode to My Family by the Cranberries.
Gavin:
Oh the cranberries. You’re right, that’s a mood. It is a band for a mood band.
David:
The cranberries is just a fucking mood. I mean, there’s dreams, there’s a whole bunch of like cranberry songs, but I chose Ode to My Family for number two. And number one, uh, it is one of my favorite bands of all time. Um, they’ve recently changed their name for a good reason, but it is Godspeed Sweet Dreams by the Chicks, aka the former Dixie Chicks. And this song is the most beautiful lullaby, magical. It feels like you’re wrapping your child up in a blanket in while you’re camping. It is such a fucking mood. It is such a beautiful song. I feel like I want to play all of these songs as our play out today.
Gavin:
I mean, if you feel like so.
David:
Um anyway, that’s my top three lists. What about you?
Gavin:
I mean, this is this is tough because you’ve just made me think about three more just in the moment.
David:
But I didn’t even get it to the 80s, like I the tiger and like all that shit.
Gavin:
Right, right. Um hold on. I I’m I’m changing I’m changing this. Uh I’m changing one thing real quick, and I just need to make sure that I know who the um No no no, never mind. I’m I’m gonna I’m gonna stick. I’m gonna stick, I’m gonna stick with my remote.
David:
Let’s stick with her gut.
Gavin:
Okay. The first one that comes to mind, but I’m numbering it number three, is Enya Orinoco Flow. Oh my god.
David:
Yes, Enya. Talking about cranberries, it’s like the same. Yes, Enya is a fucking mood.
Gavin:
She’s a fucking mood for sure. So Orinoco Flow, and frankly, that entire album is all just music from the what late 80s that all sounds exactly the same, but she’s a mood. I mean, oh, such a mood.
David:
You put like a little one of those like little like tie-dye throws over a lamp, and you just fucking light some incense and you are in a mood.
Gavin:
Number two, girl from Epanema.
David:
Oh, okay. It’s such a dinner party.
Gavin:
It’s a different sure, it’s a different mood, but it is my dinner party pretending to be Bossa Nova, um, cool. Baking, yeah. It is so but it is a mood. You’re right. It is a mood. It’s definitely a mood. Did I already talk about uh I did a dodgeball tournament with at the kids’ middle school um a couple of weeks ago, and talk about a mood. The the principal who runs it is really, really fun. And he plays great teenage music while he’s playing it, or while we’re playing dodgeball. And there was one song that came on that I’m like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, I love the song so much, I love the song so much. And in the chorus, I had to s jump up and just like take it over. I mean, I didn’t nobody noticed me doing it except my daughter, who was across the gym and she’s already dead. That was so embarrassing. I’m like, well, luckily nobody else saw me do it, but I was feeling it. And that was Call Me Maybe because Carly Red Jones. Because when I hear that song, I want to drive faster, I want to bop my head, I want to smile, I want to dance. I love Carly Red Jefferson.
David:
You’re pushing 50-year-old ass in a school gymnasium, dancing to Carly Red Jeffson. Yes, call me.
Gavin:
Oh my god, you feel like there’s so much anticipation at the beginning of that song for like two verses of lyrics, I suppose, and then boom, the chorus comes on, and I’m just like jumping up, you know, swishing my hips and wanting to tell everybody to call me maybe. I love that song. I’m not gonna lie. That’s a great song. All right. What is next week? Next week I want to hear from you. Going back to your childhood, on TV, the cartoons or the sitcoms or the movies or whatever, what were the three characters that you wanted to be? To be, not be inside of. Can we just simplify it this time, David? Can we can we not make it about sex? Okay. So something great this week was once again, frankly, just communication. How lame is that? But listen, when you are going through the trenches uh with raising a teenager, when there are those little sparking moments of happiness and glimmers of hope that you’re not completely fucking every single moment of it up, it is a something great. And um this week, um I haven’t done this in a while. She’s gonna be mortified. Luckily, nobody listens to this podcast, so nobody will know. But um, I’m still reading a book that I’ve been reading for a very long time. Um in fact, I I talked about it a couple weeks ago, um, The House of the Cerulean Sea. And um which immediately makes us think of Devil Wars product. But um I haven’t read it in a few weeks or so. And uh my daughter said, Hey, uh, you haven’t read to me in a really long time. Will you just read to me again? And I uh, you know, anybody out there who’s gonna make fun of my eighth grade daughter for being read to, I will come and kick your ass because it is um something great. And to be able to continue that tradition is feels really good. So we got back in the mode of doing that, and also I need to return that book because it is two years overdue because we’ve been reading it so slowly.
David:
What about you? Wait, before I go to my something great. Um I’m curious because we’re going through a change right now. When I was read when I would read to my kids when they were babies and when they were toddlers, they would sit on my lap and then I would read. And now my kids will usually sit next to me as I read. How what what is the literal positioning when they’re teenagers? They’re in bed and I’m just sitting on the floor. Yeah. Oh, okay. That’s sweet. Because I guess my books are like it has pictures in it. Yeah, okay.
Gavin:
Okay. We’re beyond the pictures.
David:
Um, so my something great this week is my son in his kindergarten class had a spring like a musical. Oh like they did like a 30-minute like it’s like a 30-minute, but it was like kind of like a musical. And obviously it was terrible and stupid and weird or whatever, but it was also perfect and wonderful and amazing, and like I was so uncool because I was like front row, just like gripping my program in my hand, so excited. And I knew my son was not one of the leads because when I talked to him about it, he was very coy about it. But he was like, Well, don’t look on the stage, look on the on the bottom of the stage. You you you know, you might he seem kind of sad, and it was clear like when I watched the show, he was just like in the basic bitch ensemble in the front. He was kind of like the kids in Joseph, where you’re like forgettable, right? But then they’re on the side. And I felt really bad. And of course, my tiger mom came out and I was like, That motherfucker’s the most talented acting person you have to miss joke. But it was so fucking fun to see him doing his little choreography and put he had to be monkeys at one point, he put on his little monkey hat, and it was so, so, so fun. It was my first official big school play, and he was great and amazing, and it was something great. Yeah. Yeah, that’s our show. If you have any comments, suggestions, or general compliments, you can email us at gatriarchspodcast at gmail.com.
Gavin:
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