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Um I’m definitely impressed with that. And though we do follow an a um an outline there. Uh please. I was looking up something else, and so I distracted myself right here. And I saw clearly I can’t.
David:
I saw your face just go, oh no, I’m I’m failing, and David’s watching me, and he’s gonna use this to open the show. What do I do? And this is Gatriarch. So I have two private Instagrams for my kids, and it’s just for like friends and family to see the dump of pictures so I don’t inundate people on Facebook and it’s private.
Gavin:
So yeah, you know. But it is also that makes me think then you have to manage two more Instagram accounts, and that’s exhausting to me already.
David:
It is, but all I do is post and go. Like post one photo a day, and then I I don’t even monitor. Nice. Well, the uh my mom, who is our listener, hi shout out, mom. Um who um, I won’t reveal her age because she’d get mad at me, but she’s she’s she’s got a life behind her, if you know what I mean. Is she even older than me? Nobody’s older than you, Gavin, except the pterodactyl I saw at the museum the other day. But she commented on a photo, and it was my son and my daughter sharing an ice cream. And my son was feeding my daughter ice cream. This was before the fight, and they threw it across the parking lot. But um, her comment was really good big brother vibes, smiley face. And I was like, ma’am, you are way too old to use vibes. I’m too old to use the word vibes, but she used it appropriately. So I want to give a shout out to our listener, my mom, for commenting really good big brother vibes on the Instagram because I laughed out loud. I was like, my mom is using vibes, vibes, vibes, vibes.
Gavin:
Okay, so as our listener probably knows, we do follow an outline here as we talk amongst, you know, a thousand miles apart from each other on the Zoom world or the Riverside world. But anyway, I saw this out in the outline and I thought to myself, what struck me about that is big brother vibes, and me thinking that you were gonna go down a George or William academic track. Really? Like, oh god, it’s like a sensor big brother following and creepily stalking his little sister.
David:
No, that’s your that’s your that’s your your your thoughtful like thought experiments, you know, think piece kind of thing. That’s you. I’m I’m here for dick jokes and making fun of you.
Gavin:
Totally, totally, totally, totally. Well, okay, not at all along those lines, except maybe ice cream and enjoying sweet shit. Uh, my so for many months I was talking about makeup and that it just drives me crazy that the TikTok capitalist sphere is making my daughter think that her perfect complexion is not perfect enough. So she has to buy a bunch of crap, right? From Sephora, Sephora, Sephora. Well, I did realize that the capitalist industrial complex is now selling also tweens and teens energy drinks, in particular Celsius. So you know what Celsius is, right? I do.
David:
I mean, yeah, I mean, I’m just I’m just shocked that like the everyone’s trying to get perfect prepubescent skin and perfect prepubescent energy levels. And they’re like, what are you doing? This is the this is the fountain of youth here.
Gavin:
Yes, and there is so much caffeine in the Celsius, as I’m sure you are aware, that there is something that is absolutely toxic that they pour are pouring into their body, which then they definitely are going to need skincare treatments afterwards because the Celsius is probably rotting their bodies from the inside out, right? So I took a firm hard stand and said, daughter, I will never ever buy you a Celsius. It is so bad. There are 400, I believe that’s the let’s just say 4,000. 4,000 milligrams of caffeine in a Celsius, and a coffee has 180, which is probably too much, too. No, noticeably a Coke is less. And you know how Europeans are always like, you know, there’s more caffeine in a Coke than in coffee. And by Europeans, I mean, I don’t know, pretentious people who unsolicited at the end of the day.
David:
You’ve just offended like 10 countries with that accent. I don’t even know who that was, but there wasn’t an accent, it was just pretension.
Gavin:
Anyway, so uh there is way too much caffeine for anybody to have in a cell seats, and it’s more than Red Bull, it’s more than monster. It’s it is off the charts, right? It’s just out of the charts. Anyway, so since I said I would never do it, what are we on this show? If nothing else, hypocrites. So I I wanted to be a cool dad a couple days a week ago. I don’t know, it was a special outing, and I was like, oh, screw it.
David:
Your daughter, destroy your body. I’m a cool dad.
Gavin:
I mean, listen, the love, the genuine love in her eyeballs as her head exploded, even before having the caffeine, was kind of worth it.
David:
Um as the cancer grew in her veins, she was like, I love my father.
Gavin:
I do have to say, there have been so many times in our parenting journey that we say no to stuff, and ultimately then we, my my family, my partner and I, and then sometimes we just relent, and then the and then the fixation is over, and she kind of moves on with it. Like I bought a Celsius and she hasn’t asked for Celsius, thank God. Also, she only drank a third of it to her credit because they’re what? Disgusting.
David:
Anyway, because she was probably sick to her stomach.
Gavin:
Yeah, yeah. Right.
David:
It’s my my roommate, my first roommate when I moved to New York City was a Red Bull, like, I don’t know, spokesman. I don’t know what it is, where they drive the little car and they go to different places. So in our kitchen, we had just cases and cases, and I would drink it just like soda, just like 10 a day. Not thinking anything. Yeah, I was I was an insane person.
Gavin:
Did you feel did you feel it? I have listen, I I’m a complete energy drink virgin. I mean, okay, maybe I’ve had a sip, so that’s just like I don’t know if it makes me feel energetic.
David:
It just makes me feel weird and buzzy, and I I don’t know why people do it. I I get enough excitement trying to sleep and not injure myself. So speaking of injuring myself, this is our last week of daycare. Ooh, right after my son, he he has been going here since he was a little baby, just learning how to walk. He’s been through all the rooms in this daycare up to pre-K3, and now he’s graduating pre-K4. Wow. And it is, of course, a week of parties and hugs and crying, and some of the kids have already left.
Gavin:
But it is a Did you bring, did you have to bring treats and mac and cheese? Today I baked stuff.
David:
I made a homemade mac and cheese plain. I made it plain. Um, I baked cookies. Yeah, I had to bring all the decorations, all that stuff. But it is a weird, bittersweet moment of like, you know, we talked about parenting is just a bunch of goodbyes, right? Like no non-stop goodbyes. But it is weird because like this is a such a formative, the first, you know, five years of this kid’s life were spent in this building. Now it’s not like we’re gonna never be here ever again because my daughter still goes here, it’s attached to the gym I go to, but it is it is kind of bittersweet because the following week he goes to kindergarten. And uh so um, yeah, it’s wait, so you but you’ve got a week off in between. Yeah, so the week the it’s it’s kind of like a week off. So like my son will be home and uh my daughter will still be going to daycare, but yeah. What are you waiting what what are you gonna do with him? What am I gonna do with him? I’m gonna you hark him in front of an iPad, Gavin. What do you think I’m gonna do?
Gavin:
I was gonna say you you are totally inexperienced in the ways of having your child with you 24-7.
David:
No, I’m gonna hire a professional to deal with him. I’m not gonna deal with my own son for three hours a day.
Gavin:
Well, speaking of lasts, um, we I now have two middle schoolers. Yesterday was our first day of school. And um, if if we had listeners across the country, they’d be like, wait, where didn’t school start like a month ago? But now we’re on the east coast, it’s all over the place.
David:
But it’s not just east coast, it’s like in my area where I live, and in my town, it starts a certain day. The town over it starts three days after that. The town over on the other side of that starts three days before that. It’s it nothing makes sense.
Gavin:
I know, but I mean, most of everybody west of I don’t know, the Mississippi River started a month ago, you know. So anyway, um, so we have two middle schoolers, and that is so bittersweet. And we took the picture, of course, as you do, and um and it, I mean, just watching them walk in together, one in front of the other, because god forbid they actually walk together and show that they actually have esteem for each other’s um that is what it is. But like, hey, two middle schoolers. Um, I am preparing for I this is the beginning of the end for me. They won’t like me, they won’t smile, they won’t engage me in the morning, etc. You know?
David:
So yeah. And it’s also like at from their point of view, I remember middle school for me at least, like the most horrific time in school. What uh at all because everyone was mean, everyone was trying to make fun of you. I was like becoming the gayness was bubbling inside of me.
Gavin:
Yeah, it was just like insecurities are so crippling. Um yeah. I uh the man, we’ve said I think we’ve said it before, and I’ll say it a million times over. Middle school teachers, they don’t get paid over sainthood?
David:
No, of course they don’t. No teachers do, but um, so you you know who else is a saint? Is our listener. Our listener. I love our set, I love our listeners. They are wonderful. Um we you and I have met them once or twice. Yes, um, but I want to plead to our listener. We have gotten a lot of really great Instagram uh DMs and emails from you guys, suggestions, even just general compliments. We’ve gotten some of those and we really appreciate it. We want more of them because Gavin and I have painted ourselves into a corner to release one episode every week for the rest of our lives. And we would love your help. We want your, your, your thoughts. We want you to tell us what Gavin did that you hated. We want you to tell us what I did that you loved. We also want your ideas. We had our back to school episode was because of our listener. So please continue to send us stuff via DMs, even if it’s just a dick pic. Send us stuff, activate with us. We need your help.
Gavin:
We are loving every step of this process, and it, but it’s a lot of work, and we ain’t complaining, but we are also like crawling on hands and knees to get across the finish line every single week. And it’s a pleasure. But um, give us a hand, huh? Send us guests also, okay? Shall you? Um, obviously, one of the reasons that our listeners stays engaged with us is because we are America’s finest news source, right?
David:
Always have been, always will be.
Gavin:
I have an update for you. Remember how Harley Davidson was like, you know what? Screw those people at Tractor Supply and at John Deere. We are gonna stick with our people. We’re gonna be a company of the people, and all people are included, right? Do you already know the update, Harley Davidson?
David:
I don’t know the update, but I’m just my heart is preparing to.
Gavin:
You can hear in my voice that they have been like, never mind, we’re not gonna be the DEI people and screw the gays. And um, you know, not in such explicit language, but um another one bites the dust. And guess what? Another one is biting the dust. It is Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels, which you know is a staple at gay bars across the entire country, right?
SPEAKER_02:
Yeah.
Gavin:
Um, they have also said they’re gonna dump their DEI initiatives and they’re not gonna be big old um uh sponsors in pride parades, et cetera, et cetera.
David:
Wait, do you mean Jack Daniels or Jacking guys named Daniel? Because I I’m interested in both. I want Jack Daniels to please comment on that question. But you know what? Can I just say something to all the homophobes who are listening to right now? I know our listener is probably homophobic, and that’s fine. That’s totally fine. We accept all people. Homophobia, y’all, is so boring. It’s so it’s this like anti, like it is so incredibly boring. You’re not ruffling our feathers, yeah, you’re not getting us, you’re not like getting a lib. It is the most boring thing in the entire world. So find something new. Find something.
Gavin:
Yeah, everybody needs an enemy, but how about we this is so 20 years ago. Come on, so 20 years ago. So uh, but I was a little curious about this Jack Daniels situation. Like, what is going on here? And the coverage of it is showing that there’s one douchebag out there who’s after all of these companies and is taking them down single-handedly with his following. And it’s a guy named Robbie Starbuck. Have you ever heard that name? He’s a right-wing, you know, commentator. He has probably a podcast with three or four listeners, and he and he gets those three or four listeners, okay, three or four million listeners, and they are an army and they have been going after these companies right and left. And he claims on his Twitter profile that he is a director. And I’m like, what? What has he directed? Because he says he used to direct stars and now he directs something else as his own catch line. I mean, this guy is such a fraudster. He isn’t a Hollywood type, although he tries to do all sorts of name-dropping in IMDb, but he’s done nothing of of interest. Um now he’s produced a movie with his wife about basically the vast queer rings conspiracy to indoctrinate all kids, but they can’t get it. They can’t get it to for brunch. We want them all to appreciate brunch.
David:
That’s it. All that is we’ve said this before. The gay agenda, brunch, end of life.
Gavin:
Well, he is out to destroy brunch, basically. Okay, and um, and he has gone after all of these companies. I mean, this dude and his army are single-handedly responsible for bringing down the well, you know, the this these initiatives with Tractor Supply, John Deere, Harley Davidson, Jack Daniels. Shout out to Robbie Starbuck. Robbie Starbuck, if you’re listening, do you want to come talk about uh do you want to come see if you could be a Gatriarch? Come on, dude.
David:
First of all, Robbie Starbuck, get a new name. Get a new name. Second of all, you’re boring. It is the most boring thing in the world. It’s basically a gay poor name, and we’re bored with you. Go find something else to do. Um, you know what else is really, really boring? Uh our top three list. Gay three arcs. Top three list, three, two, one. So this week is my week. It is the top three most satisfying sounds. Top three most satisfying sounds. Now, what it my my initial instinct was like going for like the crackling fire, rain kind of soothing moment. But what I realized is like I wanted it to be.
Gavin:
I didn’t go down that. I didn’t go down.
David:
Oh, I’m I’m glad because I didn’t either. I decided I wanted something that just like just was felt really delicious and wonderful when you heard it. So the top three things for me are in number three, stepping on fresh snow. Oh that like crunchy, compact y little sound. Oof, that is satisfying. Um, number two, this is a little weird if you’ve never done it, but I used to listen, I grew up in Florida, I apologize, but we used to take bottle rockets and we would like point them to the lake that we lived on, and you would they would shoot under the water and then they would explode underwater. They’d still go and explode underwater. Yeah, and so the sound of a firework exploding underwater is so satisfying. It kind of sounds like you know, if you have like a jar of olives and it has that seal and you twist it and it’s just it’s the same kind of sound. So number two, a firework underwater.
Gavin:
Uh-huh.
David:
Number one, hard to describe, but it is so fucking satisfying, is in the wintertime in the middle of the woods at night. So this like intense quiet during the winter in the middle of nowhere. It’s like a gent, maybe, maybe a little bit of breeze in the in the trees, but it’s that like stillness that is like deafening. Oof. I love, love, love, love that sound.
Gavin:
That may I those are all relatable sounds. I haven’t heard bottle rockets underwater, but I get it. I appreciate your uh description. Okay. What about you? So number three for me, I love the sound of taking off the aluminum off of a big thing of yogurt. You know what I mean? That that that seal. I appreciate the slight crinkle it makes. All right. Yeah. Number two, the house that I grew up in had a very particular uh garage door sound, and it scraped across our tile floor and scraped shut, and it had just the right of squeak, both opening and closing, at exactly the same time. I left my house, you know, for 20 years, went back. Um, and that sound was so distinctive. I have a recording of it on my phone, and um, it’s just a very it’s profound in my DNA.
David:
It sounds like the sound of por to me, if I’m being honest. A garage door scraping against old tile. You know, that’s not the that’s not the sound of luxury.
Gavin:
It is a it is a distinctive sound of a simple household, without a doubt. Thank you for shitting on my memories. And number one, farts. Farts are funny.
David:
Oh my god. I love them. They are I love them. They are funny. They are funny. I’m so glad neither of us went like that. The sound of our children laughing.
Gavin:
Well, I I will say the dead of uh a forest and the dead of winter is very kids laughing adjacent. So I’m gonna shit on your number one, okay? What’s next week? What keeps you up at night? What when you wake up at 1:30 or 2 in the morning and you can’t go back to sleep, what do you think about for that hour? Okay, Gavin, you got a button up.
David:
I know. Today, we got a big fish today.
SPEAKER_03:
I already fucked it up.
David:
No, no. We got a big fish. You gotta get your shit together because our guest this week is one of my favorite TikTokers out there. And yes, I know we’ve had a ton of incredible social media folk on this podcast before. We have. But come, yeah, but compared to this guest, trash. Every one of those people, absolute garbage, trash. Uh, our guest this week, he’s a geolocator, a content creator, an online privacy and safety advocate, a dog dad, and more importantly, today, for the context of our show, a human dad. Please welcome to Gatriarchs, where we interview people who ask to be interviewed. Jose Monkey!
Gavin:
Jose Monkey!
SPEAKER_03:
Hey, it’s it’s great to be here with you guys. I I really appreciate you uh having me on your podcast.
David:
We are thrilled. We are thrilled. You’re the big kahuna. We landed a fish two years ago in this. We finally got a real guest.
Gavin:
Episode 80, which I feel like there’s some significance there, a nice round number. It is, it’s a good number. New derivative of 20s. I don’t know. Anyway. 80. That was 1980. That’s when you graduated elementary school. Um actually not terribly.
David:
Actually, not terribly too far away. So, Jose, tell us before we dive in, how have your kids driven you bananas today?
SPEAKER_03:
Well, you know, the they find lots of ways, but um today, today’s grocery day. And so I was making a grocery list earlier, and um, I had pretty much the same conversation I always have, um, and it might sound familiar. It goes something like this Does anybody need anything from the grocery store? And then, you know, you try to like tear them away from whatever they’re doing long enough so that they can tell you, and they usually say, No, no, I don’t think so. And you know, in like a day from now, yep, it’s gonna be why isn’t there any cereal? Did you get more orange juice? So, yeah, I’m I’m looking forward to that. That’s coming pretty soon.
David:
Absolutely. You like you’re gonna be unpacking the groceries, and there’s gonna be, well, at least for my end, there’s just because why didn’t you buy Oreos? Right. I specifically asked you if you needed anything. Well, you know I need it. Yeah, no, I didn’t know.
Gavin:
Or you get some Oreos, you get some Oreos for yourself, and you’re looking forward and you hide them in the back of the cabinet, but they’re gone, and and they think, well, why didn’t you get more? Well, you didn’t take your head out of your phone, what uh and and let me know something constructive about what you want for dinner. My ri I always ask that every week, what do you want for dinner this week? And it’s just pasta and hamburgers, pasta and hamburgers. And please don’t make anything weird, dad. So anyway.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, there’s not a lot of variety to it, so it shouldn’t be hard to name the things that you want, right?
David:
Exactly. Oh man, my favorite. Now again, I have I have a two-year-old, but it it is still my favorite thing is when I say, Hey, what do you want? And she will say, you know, buttered pasta. Like, great. I make her butter pasta, I sit in front of her, burst into tears. But I don’t want buttered pasta. And I’m like, I am going to turn you at the fire station. Um, speaking of groceries, I was stalking you on your website and you have like a section. About other things that you’re doing. And I see you’re doing a freezer inventory situation. Tell me about that because that fascinates me. I’m happy to talk about that.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah. So, so yeah, I’m uh, you know, in addition to the obviously very nerdy stuff that I do with my finding people, um, I do lots of other nerdy stuff, as you might imagine. Um and I do lots of uh, you know, like home automation, uh, you know, sort of side projects and um different things, any any excuse to like write some code, I’m usually you know in on that. Um but yeah, I set up this um automation not too long ago where basically what I can do is um if I want to, I was having a lot of trouble managing the things in my freezer. Like, you know, you put something in the freezer and you try, I I don’t know what what people use, but I tried for a long time just having a piece of paper tape to the freezer where I’d write things on it and try to cross them off, and I did a terrible job with that.
Gavin:
And that is a level of nerddom in terms of freezer management. I already has never occurred to me to do anything but just scrounge between the chicken nuggets and the peas, and the peas open, and then there’s 10,000 peas at the bottom of the freezer, and in 10 years I’ll get them out.
David:
It’s like an archaeological dig. You’re like, oh, steak from the 40s.
SPEAKER_03:
Right, right. Well, I mean, I found that we we have like a pretty large uh freezer in the garage, and it’s easy to lose stuff in there for months at a time if you don’t try to keep track of it. So I tried a bunch of different approaches to doing it, and then I got uh I thought, okay, well, what I need is a spreadsheet, because a spreadsheet is usually my answer for most things.
David:
And um and I tried that the love language is.xls. Is that what it is?
SPEAKER_03:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Um so uh so I tried a spreadsheet for a while, but I still had the same problem with not updating it, right? Because it was just it was too many steps for me to like, you know, go go back to my computer or like pull up Google Sheets or whatever on my phone and try to do it quickly. Um and I would forget. So it would be out of date almost immediately. And then every six months or so, we’d try to like true up the freezer inventory to what’s in a spreadsheet. And it was just a you know a nightmare. Um so eventually what I figured out how to do um to to really simplify the whole story is um because it could be a really long story if I told you all the details, but what I figured out that I could do that would make it work for me better is um I um set up a Siri shortcut on my iPhone so that I could easily tell it. Like basically I pull out my phone and I and I hit a shortcut and says, Well, what are you adding to the freezer? And I name whatever it is, and I can put in like, you know, if it’s like two pounds chicken breasts, whatever, uh, and then um it will automatically it that calls out to uh you know a script that updates my Google spreadsheet, where it will add that item, automatically set the date so that that way it can keep track of how old it is and it puts it in the spreadsheet and then and it gives it a number and it tells me, okay, that’s number 115. And I I write the number on the bag or whatever it is, and then I put it in the in the freezer. And then when I take it out, I have a different shortcut that says I’m removing something. It says, Okay, what number? And I say, Oh, 115. It says, Oh, is that the chicken breast? I say yes. And and it actually works so much better for me now. And uh I’m doing a not a perfect job, but a better job of keeping the inventory up to date. And and then I went another step further, uh, based on a suggestion actually from somebody who um saw my video. They said, You should um figure out how to like periodically look at your spreadsheet of freezer stuff and send yourself an email when stuff’s getting old. And then that person actually went and like figured it out on their own, and they sent me like a snippet of code. They’re like, I did it like this. And I was like, I love that. So I I did something similar. So now every Monday morning I get an email that tells me anything in my freezer that’s more than like, I don’t know, two months old or something. It it says like, hey, think about using this stuff. I love it.
David:
That is incredible. I mean, that that this is the liberal agenda. This is what the this is what conservatives are terrified of. That’s right, is this sort of home automation? So wait, I need to go back because for our listener who maybe doesn’t know who you are, which sure boggles my fucking mind if anybody doesn’t know who you are, tell us a little bit about what you do because I yeah, sure. You came across my TikTok feed, like a lot of our guests have, and I was like, oh, this is interesting. And you find people who ask to be found. So for those of you who have never maybe watched your your feed, what do you do?
SPEAKER_03:
So basically, um people will send me videos um recorded anywhere in the world, and um, and they will ask me to figure out exactly where they recorded that video. And then what I will do is look at the clues that I see in those videos, um, and just using the clues in those videos, um, you know, in that video that that person sent me, try to figure out where the heck they were. Um and I um the the funny thing is you’d think like, well, you know, that sounds like really very difficult depending on what they show you. And what I have learned over, you know, a few years of doing this is that um you would be surprised how many clues you can find in very brief videos. Um and that that’s kind of the the reason I started doing it was to demonstrate to people how you’re potentially risking your privacy posting short videos that you think like nobody, you know, nobody knows where this is. I’m just I’m I’m out with my friends recording a short video, except there was there was an agenda here with starting this project.
Gavin:
I see.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, I mean it’s it’s um I mean I’ll be perfectly honest. I mean, my first um reason for doing it is because I like doing it. It’s like to me, it’s like solving a puzzle, right?
Gavin:
So it’s a game for you and for the people being founded.
SPEAKER_03:
But I try to remind people that like, look, we’re having fun here, but I’m also trying to, you know, help you be aware of what you’re sharing because I have found I I’ve done it over 500 times. I have found people in over 50 countries around the world. So um, so it’s uh it’s it can be eye-opening. Um sometimes the videos are really obvious. It’s like, oh, well, yeah, yeah, I showed you this, this, and that. But other times it’s like, wait a minute, you’re saying from you know these two clues you figured out exactly where it was, and sometimes it’s possible.
Gavin:
Uh have you ever not found somebody? Or does that happen right? Okay.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, and that’s one of the most common questions I get. Um, and when I say question, sometimes it’s not even a question. People will comment on my videos and say, like, this guy only shows us the ones that he finds, and you know, that’s why it looks so amazing. People love to accuse me of of that.
Gavin:
But yeah, that you e you even have an advanced right wing con well, excuse me, a vast whatever wing conspiracy against you that you’re a fraud and a fake. But can you always because you exist online. What are the requirements uh that you need that you ask people to give you?
SPEAKER_03:
Very few, honestly. People uh assume that I put a bunch of constraints around it, um, I don’t know, to make it easier or something, but I really don’t. Um the the main rules that I ask people to follow are um rules about um you know making it a uh a safe thing for everyone. Um so the first thing is um I will not find anyone who’s under 18. That seems self-explanatory. Um the second thing is um I need the person to what I ask people to do, and I’ll explain why in a second, I ask people when they’re sending me a video to geolocate, um, they should appear on camera and ask me to find them and say, you know, where am I, Jose Monkey, or whatever they want to say. Um, or if they don’t want to appear on camera, they can just show a sign of some kind in the, you know, in the video itself. Um the reason I do that is um to make sure that the you know the person is it’s clear that this person is demonstrating consent for me to do this and that they haven’t just taken some video that they found on the internet and sent it to me and said, like, hey, tell me where I was. And it’s like, you know, it’s where and it’s where like, you know, some random person or like where their ex-wife is, right? Yeah. So like for safety reasons, I instituted that rule um uh about like six months into doing it. I was like, I need a way to make this safer. And so now I ask people to do that. Um and you know, so so that’s the the main rules are you know, you have to be under, I mean, I’m sorry, over 18. You um you must appear on camera or show a sign so that I know that you know you um are really a person who’s asking me to find this video. And then beyond that, um I ask people just for their own safety um not to be driving when they send me a video because I’ve gotten a lot of those. Um and I also advise people to to do it at some place um public that is a place that they would be okay with me revealing the location. Um like don’t do it from your backyard or something where I might you know have to say where you live in order to you know to tell people where it was. So I just I ask people to use good judgment about that. But otherwise, I mean people sometimes assume that they need to send like a full 360, you know, turn all around. It’s certainly helpful if they do. I don’t require that. I’ve had some people send ones where it it might as well be a photograph. They basically don’t move the camera at all, and that can be really hard.
David:
I don’t want to spring this on you, but I think we need you and I should do a live um uh location tracking right now. And we’re gonna do it with Gavin. So here’s what I want you to find, okay? Okay. Can you find Gavin’s sense of humor? Jesus. Well, how can we say about that? Because I’ve been I’ve been looking for many, many years, and I’m really struggling to find it. No, I’m getting it.
Gavin:
Did my kids put you up to this? Because they definitely in the last week have said, Dad, if you would have a sense of humor about this, and I’m like, you And you’re like, I co-host a comedy book of stuff.
David:
Um but you know what’s hilarious is like you know, I I’m a super fan, so I’ve seen a lot, I haven’t seen all of them, but I’ve seen a lot of your videos. And what’s hilarious is that Gavin, as he was explaining, like, yeah, you you just see the woods or a parking lot, and you’re like, oh, that’s nothing. And then Jose is like, but see that trash can. That dumpster is a specific shape. And I know that only in North Dakota do they make dumpsters that shape. So I went to the it is it is wild, the things that because it’s never just like, oh, the sign that says Poughkeepsie this way. It’s never that. I mean, maybe sometimes it is, but um it’s almost always the shape of a uh a trash can, which is hilarious. And and going back to kind of you saying you started it because you liked doing it, that is to me what’s attractive to me about it and why I think it’s just the best thing. And if you’re not if you’re not following him, follow him immediately and follow him on YouTube um because who knows where TikTok is gonna be. But is that you it’s that’s so grounded in authenticity, it’s so clear that you love doing this. I really do. Because it it’s it’s just so apparent, and I think that’s why it’s so attractive uh uh to watch. Speaking of attractive, let’s talk about Thomas Lennon, who did one of your videos, which when I saw that, I I about jumped out of my chair. Please tell us how did that come? Yeah, how did that happen?
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, so um it it is kind of wild. Like, you know, once you uh you know reach a certain level of uh you know success on a platform like that, um, you know, 1.8 million followers on TikTok, by the way.
David:
Mind you.
SPEAKER_03:
It’s it’s kind of a lot, um, blows my mind. Um, but once you you know have that many people following you, it’s not too much of a stretch to uh have you know well-known celebrities be among them. And um so you know, a handful of, I mean, actually, I don’t even know for sure, you know, maybe there are ones that are following me that uh are using you know accounts that don’t really reveal their you know their uh actual names. But um but I did get a request um from Thomas Lennon. Um and the funny thing is he sent kind of like a really goofy um request at a very obvious location. I mean, he was in Vancouver standing in front of a sign that said Vancouver in big letters. Um and it was it was intended to be a joke, I think. He you know, he he like really you know played it up. Um and I didn’t do it right away um because I was actually in the middle of like a whole um a thing, like I think it was during it might have been when I was doing International Week or something and I had a bunch of videos planned. Um but I didn’t do it. And um when I finally got back to it, it was nearly um April Fool’s Day. So when I did the video, because it would it would have been, you know, like I I sometimes do what I call lightning round videos where it’s like, you know, if I find it very, very quickly, I just like boom reveal the location. But um but it probably would have been something like that because it was so obvious where it was. So instead I did it for an April Fool’s Day video, and you know, I I like really played it up, act like it was really acted like it was really hard to find, um said a bunch of things.
David:
Followed all the wrong clues. Right. Followed all the wrong clues, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:
And that drove some people absolutely insane. They’re like, oh my god, it’s so obvious. And some people who didn’t watch all the way through, like really thought like I didn’t find it or like I was, you know, struggling or something. But I mean, obviously it was a joke. And uh and it was it was funny because um at first um uh Tom Lennon didn’t reply at all and um didn’t didn’t like the video or anything as far as I saw, and I was like, oh geez, I I hope he didn’t like think I was making fun of him, or like maybe he didn’t think it was funny. And I was like really, you know, sort of like bummed about it. And then randomly, like a few weeks later, or actually maybe even like a month later, um he commented on the video and just said, This is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen, or something like that.
David:
I mean and I mean, you won. You won the internet. Holy shit. The funniest man in the world said you’re the did the funniest thing in the world. Like that’s you’re at that point. It’s amazing. Yeah, I was I was excited. And and that that was I I like that you did it the way you did because Tom is like, you know, if you ever watch Areno 911 or any of the stuff he does, like that’s the way he does it. He plays it very straight, you know, like and the way you did it, you were like, hmm, well, I see in the past that sign that says Vancouver, the way the waves go, you know, or whatever. Right, right, right. Um, yeah. So uh before we move on, because I want to talk about you know being a parent and and and privacy and all that kind of stuff. We gotta talk. We gotta talk about the true hero of your page, and that is that sexy piece of white chocolate, Chad. Can we talk about Chad? Of course. Everyone loves to talk about Chad. It is he he sometimes he he the spotlight is on him and not you. Again, for those of you who haven’t watched Chad is.
Gavin:
It’s good to have a side piece, like a side piece of exactly.
David:
It’s who you kind of throw to in these situations, and he’s this like douchey backwards hat, you know, sleeveless A-shirt kind of guy. But it’s so funny because it breaks up your videos just enough to have a little fun. And you playing the straight man, oh man, that is so funny. And when did that start?
SPEAKER_03:
Um, you know, it’s funny. I I feel like the Chad character started appearing in my videos. Um not initially, it’s uh it was a while before um, you know, he started showing up. And really what I needed was um at first, it was kind of a way for me to respond to um people who would, you know, heckle me in the comments and you know, say things. So like if I wanted to respond to something that like you know, some troll was saying in the comments, um rather than addressing the person directly, um especially if it was something where I’d get like a comment that was made frequently and I wanted to respond to it over time, um, sometimes I would make a video where I would have Chad say that thing to me so that I could react to him. And it he was like a stand-in for um, you know, for some of the the like more annoying things that like jerky people were posting. But also keeps you clean.
David:
You get to be clean, you just be like, no, Chad said it. I don’t know what you’re saying, or Chad responded to the troll, it wasn’t me.
Gavin:
That is genius problem solving, by the way. Genius, genius.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, it evolved over time, and it’s funny because at first it was like we had this really sort of adversarial relationship where like Chad was always like saying like you know nasty things to me, and I was just like, you know, kind of trying to shrug it off. And um over time he like you know has come to like start helping me in my videos, but it was um it was kind of fun. Um, you know, some people, some people, I mean, really love that character and um have been saying like Chad should have his own TikTok, do you know, let Chad, you know, do a whole video.
David:
No, keep Chad in the corner. No, keep Chad is salt on top of the cookie. It’s not you don’t want a whole meal of salt. It’s I think it would get old fast. Also, I think Chad, I’ve already written an entire like origin film for Chad. Chad for sure, he’s this like douchey finance bro, and he basically he he knows he is he is as dumb as rocks, but he stumbled upon some tech thing, and he is a multi-billionaire now. And but he is he is pop he is he’s yeah, uh he probably has an OnlyFans for fun. Do you know what I mean? Like there’s just something about Chad. Um also Chad is often sleeveless for those of you out there looking for a Jose Monkey um Thirst Trap.
SPEAKER_03:
There are there are guns. He Chad did uh he did a little dance recently. I don’t know if you guys caught that one, but he uh apparent apparently is a Taylor Swift fan. Of course, Chad is a Taylor Swift fan. Which to be to be clear, Jose Monkey is a Taylor Swift fan as well. A firm Swifty dad. So yeah, I I absolutely am. But yeah, it’s like Chad does, like you said, kind of help me keep my hands clean. I had like a a really um interesting location come up in a video the other day where um I don’t know if if you may have seen it, but there was a person who sent me a video from outside of a uh gentleman’s club. And I did see that one. Yeah. And I just let uh Chad take the reins on that one because uh he knew exactly what he was looking at. And um Jose Monkey had no idea. Yeah.
Gavin:
Chad, I mean, so Jose Monkey is definitely the one who inventories his freezer, and Chad is not. And so what is fantastic to me about this is that you’ve got your own little improv troupe here between you and Chad that is a level of creativity that goes beyond just inventorying your steak from 1967.
David:
So but it’s so smart to keep you, Jose Jose Monkey, clean. Yeah, like you you can keep yourself clean and still say the shitty things if you want. You know, I’m not saying Chad is Chad is shitty, but you get to you kind of create this character and it does, it keeps your hands clean.
SPEAKER_03:
It’s it’s funny too, the the extent to which um the illusion um uh really you know works for people. Um people people talk to me about Chad, you know, like like like Chad’s a real guy standing here in the room.
Gavin:
Yeah, he is a and he is and they he’s not fake. So it’s not me. Okay, so so on to the really boring stuff. Everybody, listener out there, if you want to take a nap and here comes Gavin with the boring stuff. But I am a big fan, and I have repeated an awful lot recently the quote that we’re probably hopefully all spreading more and more, which is that we on for in terms of our kids vis-a-vis the intro webs, that we are over protecting our kids in the real world and under-protecting them online, assuming you agree with that. And presuming you have children, what would you what is your prescription for people protecting their kids online?
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, I think um so yeah, I mean, I, you know, I try to um occasionally uh speak to parents, you know, directly in some of my videos and say, you know, like you really want to be careful about some of the things you’re posting um and the things you share, you know, about yourself, but also about your kids. A lot of parents post on behalf of their children, you know, they think nothing of posting photos of their children. Um and and I think you certainly can do that, but you really need to be kind of mindful of um, you know, how you’re you’re sharing things, who can see them, right? Like so many um parents do not really check their privacy settings and share things with the world. Um, and that’s probably not the best idea. So um so so yeah, I think um, you know, generally speaking, I think most of the advice I give is just good advice for anyone who’s you know trying to share things on the internet, but also be, you know, somewhat safe and um, you know, not uh risk their privacy. Um but I think some of it you know speaks specifically to um you know to parents and um watching out for their kids. Um so you know, sometimes I like one of the videos that I did that um was one of the ones that went like super viral and is you know when my account really started to get a lot of eyes on it, um, was helping a a mom who sent me a video and said, I need you to help me out. I I have a 10 year old who really wants to get on social media and I am trying to explain the risks to them. So can you help me? Like, and she and she just shows me where she is and says, you know, tell me where I am. And and I did. Um, and it was a it was. was a tricky one too because there were not a lot of clues, but I actually found it fairly quickly. Um and you know being able to pinpoint you know this seemingly you know you know nondescript location um in it was in Georgia um and and say exactly where the mom was standing, you know, within like a few feet. Um I think it’s eye-opening for people. So yeah. So yeah.
David:
Oh man, I I hope you don’t ever log into my router because the amount of horrific photos I have sent through my router would blow your mind. So let’s just pretend that like I totally follow the online safety anonymity that you say. I’m still as we all do.
Gavin:
Yeah yeah but David is approaching a world where his kids are going to be uh they’re gonna be much more literate in the iPad and iPhone uh navigation than he is. I mean my kids are far beyond me they’re um preteens but uh what limits should David be putting right now on an iPad, his TV his phone for to protect the kid yeah I mean it’s it’s tricky um because you know you do want to you know allow them to enjoy these things and become uh you know uh fluent in this language uh you know of digital uh communication that you know is is our reality um but at the same time like wherever you can put you know controls on things that make sense I think that’s good to do.
SPEAKER_03:
So you know a lot of a lot of the various different like um you know streaming apps obviously have like parental controls and things that you can you know that you can use. But um but really I think the the biggest risks come in um things that are harder to control without um without getting people to appreciate the risks um right like that’s why I try to raise awareness because um until you can get someone to really self-police what they’re doing on the uh on the internet then um there are always going to be opportunities for them to overshare things right so yeah um so I think it’s really good to speak to your kids about like you know what kinds of things are okay to to share with other people um you know maybe uh putting uh sort of limits on like what they’re allowed to do like you know don’t let them text anybody who you haven’t said it’s okay to text or like you know like lots of common sense things like that right but because once you open the door to them being able to you know put things out there on the internet um they’re gonna make mistakes they’re not gonna use um good judgment all the time and so you need to like really kind of help them understand like what you know what some of those risks are because it’s it’s too easy to to make mistakes that could be you know a real risk to your privacy.
Gavin:
So your anti-embargo for say teens being on social media, but just being smart and digitally literate and talk about it, right?
SPEAKER_03:
I feel like it’s I mean it’s a balance like I think anybody has to you know evaluate for themselves what they think makes the most sense. I feel like to completely like you know keep to to try to to keep your children completely away from it is difficult. Maybe when they’re younger but like once they start to get older it’s difficult to do and and honestly um you know it would it seems you know it’s it seems like it might be a thing that you’re doing to help them but if you sort of wind the clock back and say like well you know what if you know 20 years ago or 30 years ago uh you know you restricted your children from using you know whatever was the technology like if they weren’t allowed to watch cable or they weren’t allowed to you know do whatever right like um you really are sort of limiting their um socialization and being able to participate in this common you know cultural language so um so I think it’s it’s a delicate balance you have to like limit where you can but you know also give them a chance to you know to to learn how to to be a good internet citizen.
David:
Yeah I feel like I lucked out I feel like I I was born at the perfect time. I’m 44 and so when I was growing up we had a computer in the house starting around middle school. So I got to kind of be there before the internet and then it slowly pieced together. And then in college there were chatrooms and there was meeting people offline and there was online dating and all that kind of stuff. And I feel like that was the best lesson because it was a kind of a safe way to fail because it wasn’t too big and not everyone was already on it. Everyone was still trying to figure it out. But yeah diving into the deep end now listen meeting strangers online I’ve done that a billion times but for a kid right they don’t they don’t understand the they didn’t kind of it wasn’t like a slow tiptoe up to it. It’s just all of a sudden and so you know I I that is one thing I do often think about and I I I somehow I feel a little sad for my kids that there’s not this like safe place to fail before it’s like really meaningful to them because they have dignity to be preserved unlike yours which was buried decades ago.
Gavin:
Just absolutely from the 80s gone. But Jose are you afraid of nefarious assholes out there or are you afraid of corporations just sucking up our data like well so so it’s a really fair question.
SPEAKER_03:
And honestly I I think both of those things are really big issues. You know to to some extent there’s like you know worrying about you know the the bad actors out there who are going to you know do things you know with the information you share but but the the corporations uh I mean that’s huge um we just so readily um end up giving up a lot of our privacy to companies through these you know really kind of lengthy and and somewhat opaque terms of uh you know service uh that we always we just click on everybody just you know just tap agree just keep going because I want to use this app that you’re giving me um and you know we made that bargain a long time ago maybe not with eyes open right like this era of free um free apps you know free websites where you get all these things and you’re not paying for them but you know uh you’re giving them something in return and in a lot of cases it’s it’s uh you know access to your information and um yeah and yeah I I mean I’m really concerned about that it’s it’s very difficult though um to to really um change that scenario right because individuals can make different decisions about what they choose to you know like what what um services and apps they choose to use um and things that they you know agree to willingly share but uh again it’s it’s so much of what’s out there you’re really shutting yourself out from participating in a bunch of these things and we’ve grown so accustomed to you know having free software that we can use all the time and um yeah and so it’s it’s tricky. I I really think that um you know some other uh countries outside the United States are doing a better job in starting to uh you know put controls on what uh companies can do and and to protect your privacy.
David:
Um and I really feel like that is um there’s something to that um yeah and you know hopefully I I mean you’d like to see that done um if from a uh a well-intentioned place and not just done uh you know as a as a way of pushing some other agenda right like sometimes you’ll see you’ll see politicians try to make changes that they they say it’s you know it’s a safe internet uh you know policy that they’re trying to push but really what they’re pushing is something else right so it’s it’s complicated you’re you’re also in a terrible position because you are an online safety and privacy advocate on the internet doing videos finding people inevitably you’re going to come across the worst kind of people it’s like when you’re a waiter you just like meet the worst of humanity you’re a you’re a you’re a well-known face on the internet like you are just taking the shit by these like you know these keyboard vigilantes um and people trying to find you and all that kind of stuff that’s got to be maddening yeah I mean it’s it’s tricky right because you know like like anyone I you know I I try to be a fairly private individual um and you know and I re I reject any of these um things that people say about how like anyone who reaches a certain level of celebrity that like oh well they’re you know they no longer are entitled to privacy or something it’s like oh no I mean the basic Chapel Roan I mean Chapel Ron’s video is going crazy for that I was actually going to bring that up with you because it it is so true as I’m so I so appreciate her bringing this up. I dealt with this in a very very very very tiny way in on on Broadway where some of the people that I would work with are way more famous than me and they would sometimes not go to the stage door afterwards because they just they couldn’t or they had to save their voice or whatever and people really gave them a ton of shit for it. I cannot imagine being a celebrity at that level or even your level where like people see recognize you and they expect stuff out of you. I’m so glad that they’re speaking up because we don’t they don’t owe us anything they owe us whatever they’re if we bought their CD I’m a hundred years old if we bought their album then we get their album and that’s all we get anything else is bonus.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah and uh I I mean I totally agree um I think um in my experience um you know I have been out in public recognized by people and um they’ve always been nice I I’ve not you know so far had any like weird you know negative experiences that’s always been you know really really positive and and I love that um but it is tricky like you know sometimes you’re just out and you you know you don’t you’re just doing your thing you’re not like I’m not out looking to be Jose Monkey you know for everybody to say hello to I’m just I’m grocery shopping or something or like I mean oddly the the funny thing that happened is um I actually I got summoned for jury duty and I I went there and I’m sitting in the room waiting for them to to decide who’s gonna you know who’s gonna be put on a case and all this stuff and a person turns to me and they say aren’t you that guy that and I’m like but I mean I mean I I don’t I don’t blame them. Like it’s a thing that anybody would do right and they weren’t they were totally nice but it’s just it’s a little weird right it’s like I’m out in public at this place just trying to do my civic duty right and um and it’s like yeah let’s let’s not talk about that right now.
David:
You and Oprah just you and Oprah doing your civic duty you guys are the same level same level yes I suspect that’s not true but so um you’re a parent we talked about this you you told us that you know uh your kids are very excited about the Oreos that you definitely bought them.
SPEAKER_03:
Um tell us uh we always like uh uh funny parenting stories or like I’ll never forget the time when when you earn that parenting badge well I I will never forget the uh the day that I lost my children’s trust because I’ve never gained it back um and I’ll tell you why um so um one time um several years ago I was um I was trying you know to you know in my in my younger days as a parent when I um you know thought that you know surely if you uh expose the children to enough different foods uh even if they’re picky eaters they’ll come around to it so I I was still in the stage I was still in the stage where I thought I thought I was going to uh you know be able to to get them to come around I um I would try different things and one day I was going to make um I was just sort of making like uh just like homemade sort of just like a breaded like fish like I don’t it was just something really basic it was just like some kind of like you know white fish with with some kind of breading on it or maybe they may have been beer battered. I don’t remember exactly what it was but um but um my my youngest um came into the room and said what are you making for dinner and I said and I looked at what I was making and I was and I know all kids like you know chicken nuggets and so I looked at what I was making I was like I’m making um crispy nuggets I didn’t say they were I didn’t say they were chicken. I just never said it was chicken your honor um so I said yeah I’m making crispy nuggets and then um my kid says oh oh good I like nuggets mom thought it was fish and then leaves the room and so I’m like okay just like crossing my fingers and then um of course as as you are probably guessing when uh we all sat down to dinner the kids tried their crispy nuggets and took one bite and immediately were like what is this this is not a chicken nugget and then when I I didn’t and I wouldn’t align with them I explained I was like well it’s uh you know I didn’t say it was chicken this these are fish nugget is a shape it is it is a proportion of meat yeah the betrayal is still on their eyes yeah right so then once I explained what it was which was really more of an omission than a lie um they were not happy and now the fish nuggets story is like forget it you know to this day years later like they still you know are a little bit like suspicious whenever I bring something to the table if they’re not sure what it is they’re like what is this what now tell us the truth and they think I’m lying to them like all the time because of the the fish nuggets so they will never never trust me.
Gavin:
I have had the exact experience I did exactly I pulled the same bullshit and my daughter to this day still is very wary of eating anything remotely like a nugget in my presence because and she immediately thinks it is fish. Unfortunately all chicken now to her and I’m talking like for the last six years chicken in front of her she’s like no no no this is fish I can see an ingredients list.
David:
She’s like show me the ingredients list.
Gavin:
You have refused to eat fish for the last five years which pisses me off to no end. Right. And so you think I’m gonna um actually choose this fight right now? I choose that metal all the time.
David:
But um I’m just sitting over here with my five and two year old being like no I thought that if I diversified their plates enough that they just will eat anything and you guys are crushing my dreams with your little Satan who’s perhaps there’s hope at your house. I I wish you luck with that. I don’t like the tone of your voice Jose Monkey I don’t like the tone of your voice. Well guys that’s it thank you so much Jose Monkey for joining us on our stupid little podcast. We love you. If if people don’t know who you are which and if you are just walk into traffic because that’s insane.
SPEAKER_03:
But if not if you want to follow him where do we find you well you can find me on TikTok also on YouTube um so you know follow me on either place if you would like to see my videos I’m also on threads if you want to see the stuff that I say there from time to time but um nobody’s on threads on threads but nobody’s on threads it’s just me.
David:
Nobody’s on threads nobody’s on X. People are kind of on Twitter. Yeah so that’s that’s where you can find me. Awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah thank you guys so my something great this week you’re gonna roll your eyes but it’s my first time so you got to give it to me is back to school shopping. Yeah. And what I mean is like like you know my my my son is going to kindergarten so it’s crayons a pencil box an eraser it’s like stupid bullshit you know but we took that little list. I love that I mean it it’s it’s so visceral for your own memory of of getting your your school box whatever it was called right that was return of the Jedi and you organize your crayons with your scissors I mean it was just like it it it was it it brought me back to the fun I had when I was a kid of like getting this list and being like we got to check off all the things we got to go and do it. So I don’t know it it’s it’s a small something great but it was like really fun we went to Target um and so we paid$2 extra for everything we bought versus just going to the dollar store which is what we should have done. But it was so it was just so fun and he was excited my son was excited about grabbing each thing and being like which one goes into which box so anyway that’s my something great love it.
Gavin:
I mean school related also my something great is having my time back to myself thanks to school uninterrupted six and a half seven hours bring it. And while I want to be in summer mode all the time because I’m just a lighthearted sunshiny person. No no no no no give me dark cold days all day long so that I can do what? Sit on my computer and work? I am so lame but it’s something great. And you know what else is lame? Our show.
David:
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Gavin:
We are at Gatriarchspodcast on the internet David is at DavidFM VaughnEverywhere and Gavin is at Gaven Lodge in a dark corner working on his computer. Please leave us a glowing five star review wherever you give your podcasts thanks and we’ll overwork you next time on another episode of Gatriarchs so today is my kid’s first day of school and I absolutely follow the trend and I feel so pathetic doing so I we were driving our kids to school and I saw other people on front steps taking their first day a picture of with the chalkboard of the whatevers and everything. Should we be doing that?
SPEAKER_03:
It’s it’s a really good question. And um I try to talk to people about this around this time of year because like you said so many people do it. It’s almost like a requirement if you’re a parent and you’re online. But I think you can do it but you really just need to be careful about a few things. The first thing is obviously you want to be like really sure who you’re sharing it with. So you know so many parents like I said um so many parents don’t um check their privacy settings and they’re just posting pictures that anyone on the internet can see. So probably not the best idea. But I think you know some things to watch out for like you said a lot of people like to take them on the front steps or you know like on the way to the bus because you get like you know really good you know outdoor shot, good lighting. If possible consider taking the photos inside um I know it’s not as fun, but it is it is much more difficult for someone to figure out where you are if you’re inside a house than if you’re outside. You would not believe how many photos I’ve seen where people take a photo on the front steps and you can see the house number sometimes my house number’s right next to my front door.
David:
It’s like right there.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah yeah and sometimes that is enough to figure out where someone is if you have other information that you can use. Or you know people will sometimes take a photo at the bus stop and you know you can see a street sign or something. It’s like okay maybe you shouldn’t do that depending on who’s seeing the photo right like if you know it’s just your friends and family maybe not a big deal right um the other thing you mentioned those chalkboards um those are tricky um depending on who’s seeing your videos again um or your photos um sometimes those chalkboards have so much information about our kids on them you know it’s uh you know it says their name what grade they’re going into their interests what their teacher’s name is what school you know it’s like I’m going into the fourth grade and my teacher is Mrs. Smith. I mean that in the wrong hands can be uh you know kind of a big deal so so I’d say watch out for that but um also clothing is another one to watch out for if you’re posting photos of your kids not just first day of school photos but you know if they’re wearing that like you know class of 2025 shirt that you know that that um might even say the name of the school on it right so it’s stuff to watch out for but you know it it it’s something we all want to do and is fun to do as a parent but like as long as you know who’s seeing it you know because we just want to keep up with those Joneses and somehow we need to have the personal integrity to know that we don’t need to do exactly what the Joneses did.
Gavin:
But don’t come here for personal integrity. But please don’t